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	<title>Comments on: Conversion Question</title>
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		<title>By: Stefan Wobben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Wobben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think overall conversion can help as a benchmark for other conversions. The freezer/hotplate example &#039;it gives you more perspective on how cold is cold and how hot is hot&#039;. 

I kinda like the idea of breaking down overall conversion into small steps. By isolating steps it&#039;s easier to see where opportunities lies. It makes me thinking of Business Driver Dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think overall conversion can help as a benchmark for other conversions. The freezer/hotplate example &#8216;it gives you more perspective on how cold is cold and how hot is hot&#8217;. </p>
<p>I kinda like the idea of breaking down overall conversion into small steps. By isolating steps it&#8217;s easier to see where opportunities lies. It makes me thinking of Business Driver Dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Blackbeak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Blackbeak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Soeren;
Conversion rate is a KPI. If it&#039;s too low  on average you need to do something about it.

I agree with your concept of looking at where people are leaving a funnel and optimizing that. In my book (due out in April) the Insight model describes similar steps to do a conversion assessment. 

I look at exit rates, bounces and poor engagement as defined by the goals of the site to pinpoint areas to optimize conversion. That&#039;s why I said that bounce is important to measure. It is a direct measure of an irrelevant visit to a page. 

It surprises me that so many people are discounting bounce rates from their conversion optimization process. It&#039;s basically where you should start and one of the easiest things to find from the tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Soeren;<br />
Conversion rate is a KPI. If it&#8217;s too low  on average you need to do something about it.</p>
<p>I agree with your concept of looking at where people are leaving a funnel and optimizing that. In my book (due out in April) the Insight model describes similar steps to do a conversion assessment. </p>
<p>I look at exit rates, bounces and poor engagement as defined by the goals of the site to pinpoint areas to optimize conversion. That&#8217;s why I said that bounce is important to measure. It is a direct measure of an irrelevant visit to a page. </p>
<p>It surprises me that so many people are discounting bounce rates from their conversion optimization process. It&#8217;s basically where you should start and one of the easiest things to find from the tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Soeren Sprogoe</title>
		<link>http://www.blackbeak.com/2009/02/05/conversion-question/comment-page-1/#comment-12813</link>
		<dc:creator>Soeren Sprogoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, the basic conversion rate is utter useless and most often confusing, and a basis for making wrong decissions.

First of all, it&#039;s an average over how all trafic is performing through all of your site. It&#039;s like saying that if you stand with one leg in a freezer and the other on a hot plate, on average you&#039;re okay :-)

What you need to do is to expand the concept of Conversion Rate into a Conversion Funnel. And start measuring where exactly it is people drop out your webshop, and start optimizing that.

A basic conversion funnel could consist of the following steps:
1) Visits
2) Non-bounces (Visits - bounces)
3) Visits to the beginning of the checkout process.
4) Conversions
(your could add a 3a, each checkout step)

That way you&#039;ll get a clearer view of where exactly it is you are going wrong with your site/shop. And you can start optimizing towards lowering the dropout rate for each of the steps. Don&#039;t pay too much attention to the overall CR, take it in steps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, the basic conversion rate is utter useless and most often confusing, and a basis for making wrong decissions.</p>
<p>First of all, it&#8217;s an average over how all trafic is performing through all of your site. It&#8217;s like saying that if you stand with one leg in a freezer and the other on a hot plate, on average you&#8217;re okay <img src='http://www.blackbeak.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What you need to do is to expand the concept of Conversion Rate into a Conversion Funnel. And start measuring where exactly it is people drop out your webshop, and start optimizing that.</p>
<p>A basic conversion funnel could consist of the following steps:<br />
1) Visits<br />
2) Non-bounces (Visits &#8211; bounces)<br />
3) Visits to the beginning of the checkout process.<br />
4) Conversions<br />
(your could add a 3a, each checkout step)</p>
<p>That way you&#8217;ll get a clearer view of where exactly it is you are going wrong with your site/shop. And you can start optimizing towards lowering the dropout rate for each of the steps. Don&#8217;t pay too much attention to the overall CR, take it in steps.</p>
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